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The Sprotbrough Cree Line

Started May 27, 2017 0 Replies

Dan,I'm not sure if the origin of the Sprotbrough Cree line has been discussed before on the Network but I have just noticed your very interesting posting below. Mike is probably the expert on the…Continue

Reuben Cree and sarah Hawthorne, King Street, bangor

Started this discussion. Last reply by Dorothy A Ludaescher Sep 28, 2017. 1 Reply

I've just been contacted by Debbie who wrote:"My grandfather is Reuben Cree from 8 King St, Bangor Co. Down he married Sarah (Sadie)Cree nee Hawthorne Dec. 7 1925My mother was one of 9 of his…Continue

Ballybarnes Cree

Started this discussion. Last reply by Trevor Cree Sep 13, 2016. 1 Reply

William Cree of Ballybarnes (1821 - 1873)I was undertaking a random Google search using the keywords ''William Cree' Ireland' when I came across an interesting photograph of a gravestone. It was…Continue

The Sprotbrough Cree

Started May 10, 2015 0 Replies

On Saturday 9th May 2015 Mike Spathaky and Trevor Cree were invited to a Sprotbrough Cree family reunion. Everyone was very welcoming and it was certainly good to see so many there. The paper trail…Continue

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Trevor Cree commented on John Christopher Cameron Cree's blog post My Relation to the Cree Family, Specifically to William Cree of Kettlehill, Fife
"Stephanie Bilbro has recently informed me that she has located a new information source about the VV Ranch in New Mexico via the following link:  https://swco-ir.tdl.org/handle/10605/76589 It is contained in the Texas Tech University -…"
Feb 9, 2023
Trevor Cree replied to Hugh MacKenzie's discussion History of “Tusculum”
"Thanks Hugh. That will be very interesting for those with a Cree connection to James Cree, Trevor."
Jan 9, 2023
Trevor Cree commented on John Christopher Cameron Cree's blog post My Relation to the Cree Family, Specifically to William Cree of Kettlehill, Fife
"John, I have now taken a look at the Fife and Devon booklet and have found the link that you mention on page 22 (http://www.cree.name/archives/fifeanddevon.pdf). Unfortunately Mike (Spathaky) has recently passed away and therefore the descendants of…"
Jan 9, 2023
Trevor Cree commented on John Christopher Cameron Cree's blog post My Relation to the Cree Family, Specifically to William Cree of Kettlehill, Fife
"John, Stu Wainright has just posted and he is also descended from William Cree of Kettlehill, Fife, Trevor."
Jan 9, 2023
Trevor Cree replied to Hugh MacKenzie's discussion History of “Tusculum”
"Hugh, Many thanks for your post. You might find the following link useful http://www.cree.name/person.htm?id=2611 since it relates to James Cree who was a wine merchant and later a rancher in the USA. Edward Hodges Cree made a painting of the…"
Jan 9, 2023
Trevor Cree commented on Trevor Cree's blog post Mike Spathaky
"Helen, It is indeed very sad that Mike passed away just before Christmas. Cree family history would never have been the same without his research efforts over some 30 years which he shared with everyone…"
Jan 9, 2023
Trevor Cree commented on Stuart RE Wainwright's blog post Thank you and the reason for applying
"Stu, Again, welcome to the Network for those with an interest in Cree family history. Gerald Hillary Cree certainly undertook a great deal of research into his Cree family history and although I did not meet him myself Mike (Spathaky) did. Because…"
Jan 9, 2023
Mrs Helen Dawson commented on Trevor Cree's blog post Mike Spathaky
"I am so sorry to hear about Mike. He done a lot for all the cree line's. Would you please pass on my condolences to his family. x"
Jan 8, 2023
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"Sharon, I guess that is Melvin Laclede Cree (Cree ID 5806)? who was descended from David Cree (of Dublin Township, PA) and possibly Line 17: The Perth Glovers of Perth in Scotland."
Jan 7, 2023
Trevor Cree left a comment for Stuart RE Wainwright
"Welcome Stuart. Feel free to post as you wish, Trevor."
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Mike Spathaky

I am very sorry to have to report the very sad news that Mike (Spathaky) passed away on the 24th December 2022. Mike was the driving force behind Cree family history research for over 30 years and he was the primary creator of the Cree One-Name Study database (https://cree.one-name.net/home/index.html). I am sure that all of our thoughts are with his wife Marian, family and friends.See More
Dec 28, 2022
Trevor Cree commented on John Christopher Cameron Cree's blog post My Relation to the Cree Family, Specifically to William Cree of Kettlehill, Fife
"John, Apologies about my belated response to your posting. It is certainly very good to have a descendant of the Fife and Devon branch as a member of our Network. Gerald Hillary Cree certainly undertook a significant amount of research in those…"
Nov 9, 2022
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Granda (Reuben Norman Frederick Cree)

"Very nice photograph of Reuben."
May 10, 2022
Trevor Cree replied to Neal Connor's discussion Cree Lisburn
"Neal, The fact that you have taken a family history DNA test should really help you understand more about both your Connor and Cree origins. As you know your paternal line (Connor) should help you match up with a lot of male individuals on the…"
Jan 27, 2021
Neal Connor left a comment for Trevor Cree
"Hi Trevor,  Many thanks for the acceptance.  My surname is Connor but my mothers maiden name is Cree from Lisburn.  I have been recently searching back, upon discovery of Samuel Raymond Cree.  My Uncle has made me aware that he…"
Jan 26, 2021
Trevor Cree left a comment for Neal Connor
"Welcome to the Cree Family History Network Neal. Apologies for the delay, Trevor."
Jan 22, 2021

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Mike Spathaky

Posted on December 28, 2022 at 15:31 2 Comments

I am very sorry to have to report the very sad news that Mike (Spathaky) passed away on the 24th December 2022. Mike was the driving force behind Cree family history research for over 30 years and he was the primary creator of the Cree One-Name Study database (https://cree.one-name.net/home/index.html). I am sure that all of our thoughts are with his wife Marian, family and friends.

Cree One-Name Study

Posted on April 9, 2017 at 17:49 0 Comments

Clearly many of us have individually made significant contributions to Cree family history over the last decades but none more so than Mike Spathaky. The Cree One-Name Study (http://www.cree.name) that he created is a monumental achievement and thousands of those around the world with a Cree ancestry will have consulted it at one time or another. It is difficult to comprehend how many months or perhaps years have gone into…

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Welcome to all the new members of the Cree Network

Posted on December 28, 2013 at 3:37 1 Comment

I should just like to take this opportunity to welcome all of those who have recently joined the Cree Family History Network. Over the last few years significant progress has been made in helping individuals trace their own Cree ancestry and the Cree.name website must be one of the most comprehensive family history resources in existence. The male Cree who have undertaken the DNA test have allowed us to prove that many previously unconnected Cree lines are indeed directly related and many…

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Posted on July 11, 2013 at 6:56 0 Comments

We have recently had to suspend a very new member of the Cree Family History Network because it would appear that they may have been involved in Spamming other members. If you received any unwanted messages our apologies. Hopefully it was contained before too many members were contacted (10th July 2013). I believe that you will not be contacted again by that person since their membership has now been blocked. We try to be very careful when vetting new applications,

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At 0:49 on January 26, 2021, Neal Connor said…

Hi Trevor, 

Many thanks for the acceptance.  My surname is Connor but my mothers maiden name is Cree from Lisburn.  I have been recently searching back, upon discovery of Samuel Raymond Cree.  My Uncle has made me aware that he was my Grandads 1st or 2nd cousin.  My Uncle had made me aware that there is a few photographs.  To our amazment he has found them.  I now have a copy of this.  This would have been my Mums Great Great Grandfather, so I'm guessing it would be my Great Great Great Grandparents.  On the back is written William and Mary Cree. 

I am hoping to piece more of this together and would love to share the photo with you guys 

At 15:05 on August 13, 2020, David Cree said…

No probs my great grandfather was Robert Cree he married Lilian Ridler they lived in a little cottage think it was called elmos or emos cottage in Sunniside near Whickam.

At 8:43 on August 13, 2020, David Cree said…

Sorry I should have added that it was  April 2014 when I settled over here in Portadown and I was born 10/02/1974 my sister on 19/03/73 we are the only children Robert and Dorothy had.

At 8:32 on August 13, 2020, David Cree said…

Hi Trevor and thanks my grandfather Robert Cree married Betty Smith and moved to Burnopfield where my father Robert  was born he married my mother Dorothy Brown and had myself and my sister Diane who still lives there. I joined the Army and met my wife Lynn Neilly  whilst serving over here and when I left the army I settled here we have one son called Alexander.

At 22:09 on September 11, 2017, Richard M Shutes said…
Hi Trevor,

We are currently on holiday in Ireland. I was able to visit Belfast last Saturday and Cork today. What a wonderful trip it has been. Just wish I had more time in Northern Ireland to do some research.

Richard
At 1:06 on July 31, 2017, Sarah Cree said…
Hi Trevor
Thankyou for the welcome note. Caroline is my cousin and she introduced me to the website, which is great!
Kind regards
Sarah Cree
At 20:17 on July 24, 2016, Katrina Simpson said…

thank you Trevor, I did know some of that information but not all.  most interesting.  I will contact Mike when I can.  Thank you again. Katrina

At 10:54 on November 28, 2015, Sean Harrington said…

Is there any further information available on David Cree - Christening Date 03 Feb 1706, Kinnoul, Perth. Father's Name David Cree ?

At 11:53 on November 27, 2015, Mike Spathaky said…

Hi Sean,

Welcome to the Cree Family History Network! Great to have a Dubliner here.

I think it is eminently possible, I would say probably even, that John Crie married three time as you have shown in your posting. Such a situation is not unusual at this period. I have him on the Cree database with wives numbers 2 and 3 at http://cree.one-name.net/person.htm?id=2346 (and will add his first wife and her children shortly).

Perth was an unhealthy place to live in the 18th century when the town's sewerage system had not kept up with the needs of its growing population. Millers' families were susceptible to TB and lung diseases and women at childbirth were especially vulnerable. It was usual for widowed fathers of young children to marry almost immediately after the loss of their wives in order that the children could be lookd after. So it is far more likely that there was one John Crie, miller, who married three times than three such men. The existence of three people known as John Crie, miller, stretches credulity - mine anyway. The dates as you point out fit this story very well.

What is less clear is whether John was the one baptised on 23 November 1736 in Blair Atholl as the son of David Cree for he would have been only 15 yrs old at his marriage to Jean Keiller. I am uncertain what the minimum age for marraige was for males in Scotland at that time. John was old enough to father a child and their daughter was born six months after the marriage, so we can guess there would have been pressure for a marriage. I know that marriage laws were in general more relaxed than in England, so it is not impossible that it was he.

However I accept there is no convincing evidence to connect John Crie, miller in Perth, with David Crie and Margaret Cowan of Blair Atholl, even bearing in mind that this couple were from the Methven- Tibbermore area just a few km west of Perth. The fact is that there were a number of Crie families from this area.

Going by the most common age at marriage of 24 (for males) the most likely birth record for our miller is that of John Crie born 3 February 1719, Meckven, a fermtoun in Methven parish, to Alexander Crie. This is one of those suggested by Trevor Cree. At present I think we have to suspend judgement about where John Crie came from.

At 21:39 on November 26, 2015, Sean Harrington said…

Trevor ,with respect please note that Isobel was born to John Crie & Janet Kidd on 9th Dec 1764 & he then John marries Jannet Young on 26th Feb 1765. This is a similar turn around to the one which you refer to. 

Also over these 3 marriages & the 10 children born, only one name occurs twice that of John in 1760 ( mother Jean Killer ) & John in 1769 ( mother Jannet Young ) suggesting that the first John dies somewhere between 1760 & 1769, possibly even at birth. 

 
 
 

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